Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Faction Warfare - Tier 5 Warzone Control, Better Than Masturbation

We hit T5 warzone control again. Unannounced. I missed it. Sort of. I was planning on missioning this week, get a pool of LP in store, because I was expecting next weekend that we'd likely push for T5 control again, before Nulli moved in (after which, it might be a tad tough to accomplish.)

So I was slightly annoyed to log in, last night, to see we'd just vacated two hours of being at T5. But we were still sitting at 79.5%, just barely under T5. I decided to continue with the plan to mission, in case anybody decided to push us over the top again.

I was dual-boxing hardcore. Poetic out picking up and doing the missions, Scottish out buying up all the cheap EMP S ammo he could find and hauling it back to Abudban. Just as I was finishing up both activities, a couple hours later, warzone control moved to 80.5%. A hair into T5 control.

I managed to climb to 252K LP, though I wasn't able to find enough ammo to use up that much LP. 3.6M units of EMP S, I was only going to be spending 216K LP. Better than nothing. Time to start furiously clicking. 

My wrists were so damned sore afterwards. T5 warzone control doesn't quite have the finish of masturbation, but it does have the wrist workout.

At some point during all the endless clicking, we slipped to 80.2% control. Three minutes after I'd converted all my EMP S to Republic Fleet EMP S, we were back to 79.8%.

I courier contracted it all to Jita for 40M ISK. I like to support haulers. I used to do a fair bit of hauling myself. Once a space teamster, always a space teamster.

The last time we hit T5 control, I made 1.572B ISK in profit on 254K LP, or 6188 ISK per LP. That's a pretty good conversion, LP to ISK. Last night, I made 1.306B ISK in profit on 216K LP, or 6046 ISK per LP. A tad less than previously, but prices are still depressed, I believe, because of all the ammo that flooded onto the market just a couple weeks ago. I'm not complaining, though. If you're pulling in 6000 ISK (or more) per LP point, you're doing quite well.

I'll probably continue doing missions for most of this week. In the event we try for T5 control one last time before Nulli makes their presence known. I'll stockpile the ammo for a month or so before dumping it on the market, wait for prices to recover again.

This was going to lead into some lengthy sections on T5 LP store scaling, and perhaps moving the warzone control LP scaling elsewhere, an excellent idea I've been hearing a lot about from Hans. And I was going to write about the possible impact of Nulli moving into the Amarr militia for a short vacation. I'll save both for separate posts.

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  1. Two weekends of T5 net you enough to buy approximately 2706 thrashers at current Jita prices. I'd by lying if I said I wasn't envious. Just a little.

    I hope you do write about Nulli. Most of what's been written has been terse and tiresome.

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  2. most of amarr agreed to stop flipping systems. Just check the FW window. At least 5 systems are over 90% contested without any atempt to flip them. I don't see why you are suprised that you have T5 again.

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    1. I'm not surprised that we're able to do it (I do realize that you guys are giving no fucks about FW sov) ... I was just surprised it wasn't announced.

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    2. Isn't it obvious why it wasn't announced? The more people know in advance, the more the ISK/LP ratio goes to hell due to people crashing prices.

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    3. Thanks. I understand the market. I've even suggested we don't announce, to keep Amarr alts from cashing out to a minimum. But since the last was announced, I was still expecting to be ignored and the next T5 push to be announced too.

      Considering how close we are to T5, most of the time now, it only takes a few folks to push us upwards of their own accord. The LP they spend to do it, outweighs the massive profits they earn.

      The next push to T5 will likely be unannounced too ... but I'll be ready for it.

      I still think the LP store pricing scaling is ridonkulous ... but while it is implemented, I'll take advantage of it. Last month I lost 500M ISK in ships, this month it will be closer to 750M ISK in ships (maybe more.) So I need the T5 winfall to keep me in the fights.

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    4. The reason it was unannounced was becuase we were the ones that pushed it. The truth is, theres nothing you can do to keep Amarr alts from cashing out and the only reason large alliances like LNA and Iron Oxide want to control when the push happens is so that they can profit off of their own members by manipulating the markets appropriately beforehand.

      Also, i'll just leave this here.

      http://cry-moar.blogspot.com/2012/07/its-not-whether-you-win-or-lose-its-how.html

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  3. lol whose the carebear now?

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    1. Spending 4 hours making money so that I can afford to lose 500M - 1B ISK in ships per month is carebearing?

      Carebearing has a very mutable definition, it seems.

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    2. running glorified lowsec courier contracts for 4 hours and selling to buy orders, and bitching when someone comes into your plex cuz ure wont get (as much) LP. "Closet Carebear" anyone?

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    3. We all have certain carebear tendencies. Ripard with his incursions, for instance. The Mittani, rarely logging on. Me, selling to buy orders (that's a new one). You, being an anonymous bitchy-bitch.

      (I've little problem with people posting anonymously, except when they use it to bitch and moan. Cowboy up, son!)

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    4. Just pointing out that you spent half of last year bitching about E-Uni, risk aversion, and carebear entitlement. And now all you post about is FW plexing or how lucrative it is, and you bitch when someone comes in your plex (equivalent of ninja salvaging) to troll you or w.e.

      You act as entitled as any hi-sec missoner I've seen. The fact that you do it in lowsec, and pvp doesn't change the fact you whine just like the rest of the carebears you hate (and by your own definition).

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    5. A carebear would scream on the forums that a mechanic should be created to make sharing Plexes impossible. I didn't do that. I actually stated that the plex troll was well within their right to do what they did. I didn't have to accept it ... and at one point did lock and attack them (but one gun wasn't going to do much.)

      As for making money. Not sure how that's carebearish. Plus, I do state that the current ISK potential is out of whack and should be changed. A carebear would never say such a thing.

      Until CCP makes changes to the LP store prices, I'll abuse the system, the same as anyone else.

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  4. Thanks for making the market crash, and screwing FW further into oblivion.

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  5. ive got this little program called mouseclick

    set it to the buy button in the LP, 500ms intervals times amount of clicks your gona need

    then all you need to do is spam the return key, a lot less carpel tunnel inducing lemme tell you

    made around 1,55 bil as well, good times :)

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  6. Read pinkie's blog. Amarr alts pushed it to lvl 5. Facepalm.

    -Zarnak

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