Friday, February 8, 2013

So You Want to Be a Fleet Commander

Anybody can be an FC. That's what they teach you in EVE University, at any rate. Being a successful FC takes practice and experience. One of the best routes to becoming a great FC is to learn under those that are known to be great.

In the YOLOCOLO (Fweddit, In Exile, Moar Tears), we're fortunate to have a number of stellar FCs. It's where the Amarr excel over the Minmatar. Late Night Alliance holds it up as a point of pride that they don't have FCs, which explains why they get their asses handed to them consistently. A great FC can give you a 20-30% advantage over an FC that's only competent. A great FC is equivalent to the advantage off-grid boosting links can give a fleet.

It's hard to describe what makes a good FC. It's the sort of thing, after you've experienced a number of different FCs, you start to recognize the good from the bad.

In the YOLOCOLO, we have Almity of In Exile; Pinky Feldman of Moar Tears; and DurrHurrDurr and Master Zeuth of Fweddit.

Almity is the best fleet commander I've ever flown with. I would not be surprised to learn that he could hold his own with the very best in the game. Not only is he calm, cool and collected in a fight, but the man knows exactly how to roam, how to utilize his scouts, how to bait, how to keep a low-profile for his fleet until the pounce.

Don't listen to me, though, listen to ShyAsianHunny:
It was a YouTube video of Almity FC'ing that made me say "Damn, I want that guy to call all my targets."

Days later I was in Fweddit. Days after that I was in an Almity fleet. DREAMS COME TRUE IN FWEDDIT.
Hell, if you don't believe me or ShyAsianHunny, listen for yourself.



Almity is the example that should be held up to all Amarr. Great FC. Great PvPer. He cares about the warzone. He plexes. He iHub bashes. If we're at 38 systems, he wants to be at 39 systems.

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If there's no Almity available, then some Pinky Feldman is the next best thing. He's the FC in the opening fight. You can also hear the seamless switch off between Pinky and Almity during the battle. That's another thing the Amarr are fortunate to have, FCs that work well together. (The second brawl has TechPrime in the fleet command position, and then finishing up with Almity in the third fight.)



Like Almity, Pinky is calm under the guns. If Pinky has a weakness, it's the roam. He's a lot on his plate, so calling out the wrong gate, or forgetting he didn't call a warp is not unusual. But once the fight is near, like Almity, he excels at setting and baiting the brawl. His target calling is spot on too.

Pinky, like Almity, cares about the warzone. He once dragged a fleet around under the false pretense of a big bashup, then got everyone to upgrade all the iHubs, because nobody could be trusted to do it on their own. Pinky is hilarious like that.

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And if Almity and Pinky are off doing other things, then there's some DurrHurrDurr and Master Zeuth co-FCing magic, to keep a fleet in the black.



Now Durr is a great FC too, but it takes time for people to get used to his extra loud, yelling-into-the-mic style. His enthusiasm for large fights is infectious, though. Master Zeuth is from the calm school of FCing, but he doesn't brook newbie mistakes as well as most of our other FCs.

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And since I was digging through the archives, here's me, back when I was Minmatar, being primaried by Fweddit. I remember this fight. We're on the acceleration gate. On the count of three, everyone is to warp in at the same time. I'm the only one who follows orders, everyone holds off on their warp for a full second. I land on grid first and am quickly volleyed off the field. Ah, good times.



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If you see FCing in your EVE Online future, and you want to learn under some quality leadership, then consider In Exile, Moar Tears, or Fweddit as your PvP destination.

14 comments:

  1. I want to be an FC when I grow up.

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    1. I've heard of him. I've never flown with him. I believe he left faction warfare around the time I joined the Amarr.

      We don't do much with The Imperial Fedaykin [TMFed] (the corp Predator was with). They're sort of the Late Night Alliance of the Amarr. Chip on their shoulder, type of stuff. And Fweddit and TMFed have problems from time to time, nothing that lasts anything longer than a few days ... but it's a rollercoaster relationship.

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  3. poe, where have you been? mumble needs more funny.
    and i guess i'm now Efamous. But in all seriousness i don't have a huge N sample number to compare to, but Almity, Pinky, and Zeuth are able to impose a very calming order to the battle. WHen im flying logi and not really paying as much attention to them and trying to manage targets and my watch list i do get a very different sensation of how the battle is going.

    #Yolo

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  4. Good stuff, great article for us up and coming newbie FCs. Will continue to practice the discipline these guys show.

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  5. Spin's FC seminar is excellent material for aspiring FC's to listen to.

    http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=Public_Access_BASIC_FLEET_COMMAND_Seminar

    If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and you can target call intelligently and clearly, you can be a good FC.

    In the first video, the FC made a couple of mistakes (he should have burned through the augoror that came through first and he should have spread points at the end 'spread points kill everything') but all in all he made good decisions, communicated clearly (I think he went dyslexic on at least one target but that's nit-picking) and 'didn't suck'.

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    1. Yeah, at least twice he calls out different letter orders for names. ING when it's IGN. But I do prefer Almity calling out letters rather than trying to pronounce some of the names, because everybody is going to pronounce certain names differently, which means locating primaries and secondaries more slowly.

      As for the first ship through. I sometimes expect the first ship through to be bait, super-brick tanked, to give the rest of the fleet time to get in and get set-up. It's kinda usual to ignore the first ship through and wait to see what follows. Cuz if it is brick-tanked, you end up wasting a lot of time better spent on the ships that follow.

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    2. Ignoring the rest of the post Ill just reply to Akjon.

      I had us set up about 5k off the gate on an archor. That first Aug decloaked about 10k away. I knew we had the dps to break their reps and I knew ours would hold for the most part. By not killing their logi I keep the bulk of their fleet on the field netting us more kills.

      In a fight like that, killing the logi off will just make them bail faster. Being mostly armor AB fit cruisers we lacked the fast and hard tackle to pin down everything. I would rather have my fleet hold what is close than burn 50k after a few strays that are trying to escape. Go for the sure kills first.

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    3. Actually now that you mention it ("Ignoring the rest of the post Ill just reply to Akjon.") another key characteristic of great FCs is the ability to separate irrelevant noise from critical information (when their scouts/skirmishers give recon.) Clearly Almity has that ability in spades.

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  6. Terrible propaganda Poe. Everyone knows that the Amarr haven't had any good FCs since all of their old ones quit before Inferno and groups like Fweddit and EXILE contribute little to warzone control and more about fights, which is why the Minmatar have such a consistent dominance over the warzone.

    @AKJon, if you think those mistakes Almity makes are bad you should try flying with us. Honestly, I would say that our FCs give us at least a 30% disadvantage by their terribleness.

    Also, I don't believe that a good FC gives you an advantage rather so much as allows you to use your fleet to it's full potential. EVE is a game where most fights are decided before they begin and it's your battle to lose rather than their battle to win. With that being said, there are occasional fights where you have breakpoints of key conditions that need to happen at certain times and the outcome is undecided until those things happen...but even then situations like that are rare.

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    1. "Also, I don't believe that a good FC gives you an advantage rather so much as allows you to use your fleet to it's full potential. EVE is a game where most fights are decided before they begin and it's your battle to lose rather than their battle to win. With that being said, there are occasional fights where you have breakpoints of key conditions that need to happen at certain times and the outcome is undecided until those things happen...but even then situations like that are rare."

      I've been witness to many fights that we've won, where people afterwards wonder "How the hell did we win that? They should have mopped the floor with us?" Because they had a terrible FC, and terrible fleet discipline.

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    2. "I would say that our FCs give us at least a 30% disadvantage by their terribleness."

      Were I to FC a real fleet, I'm sure I could eek out 200% more terribleness, for 73% less return.

      (also... my killboard only ever gets worse)

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  7. And in gsf, we have DBRB, welping fleets since, wait, when did he join?

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